"Dusty Ventures" (dustyventures)
10/13/2013 at 16:15 • Filed to: None
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"Dusty Ventures" (dustyventures)
10/13/2013 at 16:15 • Filed to: None | 0
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This weekend Vettel won yet another Grand Prix and is a virtual lock for another title. Last week Ogier won his seventh rally in eleven events this season. Klaus Graf and Lucas Luhr won their eitgth race in nine starts on the season in the American Le Mans series. Earlier this year Audi won the 24 Hours of LeMans for the fourth year straight and twelfth time in fourteen years. And in V8 Supercars Triple Eight Racing is looking good for their fourth straight title, racing a Holden, the winning make for 11 of the past 14 championships. But barely over 12 hours ago the motorsports twitterverse exploded as a giant fell. Triple Eight Racing and Holden were defeated at Bathurst, one of the biggest stages in motorsport, by Ford Performance Racing's Mark Winterbottom, a man who had never so much as seen the Bathurst podium in a decade of racing. With the event coming down to a late battle between Winterbottom and defending champ (both in Bathurst and V8 Supercars as a whole) Jamie Wincup, and ultimately a last lap dive and subsequent pace-killing slide by the latter, it has been called one of the best races and best finishes of the year in all of motorsports, and may well go down as one of the all-time greats. And that got me thinking…
Does seeing the same driver/team/manufacturer win all the time make a series boring? Or does it add excitement to those races where someone else in the pack comes out on top? Does it make race fans behave like Syracuse football fans? Show up for the start but stream out of the stadium at the end of the first quarter when it's clear who's going to win (hint: it's never Syracuse). Or do tired fans not even bother watching in the first place because they've deemed the result a foregone conclusion. What say you? Is there such thing as being too dominant? If so where is the line, how many wins is too many? Does the same driver constantly winning hurt viewership? Have you found yourself not watching F1, V8's, WRC, or another series because you felt certain a particular driver was going to just run away with it again? Or do you make sure to watch because if the giant gets beat this time you want to see it?
Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur
> Dusty Ventures
10/13/2013 at 16:22 |
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In the case of F1, I still try to watch every race because although I know Vettel will win, the real racing is going on behind him. Hulkenberg and Sauber have been beating up on the bigger teams recently, and being a Sauber fan, that really excites me. Also, as you said, if Vettel doesn't win a race, it's also usually pretty exciting
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Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur
> Dusty Ventures
10/13/2013 at 16:23 |
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Team6.1
> Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur
10/13/2013 at 16:30 |
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At least NBC does a good job of showing the real racing. Not so much Japan but others where vettel is 30 sec out front they stop talking about him, stop showong him, and it's tollerable. I don't like him though and his comment today especially "It's not fair" about lap cars? I hope whoever redbull pays to change his diapers (because he is a baby) gets paid a lot (because he is a whiny baby full of shit)
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Team6.1
> Dusty Ventures
10/13/2013 at 16:32 |
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I will frequently fast forward through the second half of F1 races or go do something else with the forgone conclusion that Vettel will win. I'm ok woth driver/team dominance as long as they are challenged. In the case of F1 maybe there are good battles elsewhere in the field but at the end of the day it's less exciting with no one challenging for 1st
desertdog5051
> Dusty Ventures
10/13/2013 at 16:39 |
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I think it may be a turn off for some fans. But, there are a lot of fans who just come to see the racing and don't even remember who won last time. What is to done? There is no goood answer to that question. You cannot handicap a dominant team. You can't say that they can only win so many races each season.Winning at racing is about the team players as much as equipment, if not more so. Until another team gets the perfect combo they will be also-rans.
Hoccy
> Dusty Ventures
10/13/2013 at 16:47 |
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As long as a motorsport has interesting characters which is fast enough to win, I will continue to watch it. The most consistant driver (if there is one) will win in the end, but I want to watch who else comes on the podium. And I want to watch those races where the "unlucky" drivers wins or gets a podium. Also why can't we appreciate the great racing in the packs behind the superior driver?
Or if you want to watch a motorsport where everyone can win the event, go see the World Rallycross Championship next year. This years European Championship had 5 different winners in 9 events. And still you felt that somone was unlucky to not win an event. Even the champion didn't win an event!
BullManUGA
> Dusty Ventures
10/13/2013 at 16:59 |
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Nobody cares about the ALMS LMP1 class. It is largely ignored and the racing in LMPC, GTE, and GTC more than makes up for it.
gmporschenut also a fan of hondas
> Dusty Ventures
10/13/2013 at 21:19 |
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When you have one team just pull away with points and pole positions it does take away some of the suspense. Most other sports require that for the championship the last two teams battle it out. What makes the experience even worse is when the presenters just follow that leading driver. I think NBC has a better idea than Fox that no one wants to watch a parade lap without being challenged. Yes you can win and be cool or you could be like Vettel and Shumacher and just come off as a giant douche. With those two I don't see any emotion just a stupid smirk.
JEM
> Team6.1
10/14/2013 at 10:24 |
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Quick note: NBC get's it's live race coverage from the F1 feed, including all the replays, from what I understand, they have little or no control over it. That said, the coverage does seem to do a good job of focusing on whatever interesting battles are going on on track.
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JEM
> Dusty Ventures
10/14/2013 at 10:30 |
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Same driver/team dominance does take the fun out of race watching for me personally - but not as much as a series becoming un-interesting in itself. After following the ALMS and Grand-AM for years, this year I've found them to be rather dull.
F1 - I tend to ignore Vettel and pretend everyone is racing for 2nd. Still makes for a decent race.
That said - Indycar is FANTASTIC for racing excitement. I never have an idea what's going to happen and that's why this year (and last) I've looked forward more to the Indycar races than I have any other, except maybe the first couple F1 or LeMans.
quarterlifecrisis
> JEM
10/18/2013 at 11:56 |
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I'm several days late to this, but if I recall, Japan (at least used to be) the only race where the video feed was done in house, instead of being the usual global feed. It's why drivers like Sato, and teams like Super Aguri used to get crazy amounts of TV time for what they were.